Monday, September 21, 2015

SABRE SQUADRON "BIG FIGHT" WWIII 3GSA vrs BAOR British!

"Initial progress reports received at Army Headquarters from their attacking divisions did not leave much to be optimistic over.  Ammunition expenditures, casualty rates among the lead divisions, and of course supply constraints were problems that were keeping the Army commander up at night.  What was infinitely more troubling however was the failure of the lead divisions to capture their D+1 objectives.  The 1st British Corps was not folding under the pressure as quickly as Front's planning calculus had anticipated, and the British reluctance to give ground was not allowing the Army to achieve the freedom of maneuver it needed to reach the Weser River on time."  
-Major Fyodor Antonov,  Deputy Plans Officer 


Ken and I were finally able to link up and play a larger game of SABRE SQUADRON with the "proper" rules that arrived in the mail last week.  (ironically, when we finished the game and I walked out of Ken's house, the rules were sitting there on his porch but he had the PDF copy and I brought my hard copy with me). 

The game was a "Planned Attack" from the SABRE SQUADRON rules allowing me 2 x more points than Ken, preparatory bombardment, and Ken was allowed to dig in initial battle positions, and emplace 2 minefields!

This game would feature my Soviets, consisting of 2 x T-80 platoons and 1 x BMP-2 mounted infantry platoon squaring off against Ken's magnificently painted Chieftain main battle tanks and FV432s.  In order to bolster my points, Ken let me use his BTR80 platoon along with some Flames of War WWII Soviet infantry.  Ken subbed his WWII British infantry for modern Brits but you couldn't tell much from the pictures.  We played using Ken's table and outstanding terrain.

My Soviets.  90% are Quality Casting.  The smaller-ish BMP is from QRF.
The Soviet objective is to capture a small village on the ridgeline on the far side of the board.  Lots of terrain on this board ensured a much more challenging game, and Ken made full use of it to slow me down, forcing my infantry to leave their comfy BMPs and BTRs early to try and dig British squads out of their positions.
NORTHAG, British I Corps AOR.  Looking west along the Soviet line of march

more shots of the battlefield looking west.  The ridgeline and small vilalge in the upper right of the picture is the objective.

British infantry in the woodline.  MILAN and infantry teams


Small village along the Soviet line of march

red chits are corners of the first British minefield

second British minefield.

The plan was to send the infantry up the forested area, taking a covered route to the objective, while the armor moved through the gap in the tree-line to provide cover fire for the infantry to seize the village.  I have only 10 turns to capture the town.







 Due to the command confusion rules, I was forced to managed traffic fairly well but this also canalized me in the gap and stacked up my armor moving into the attack in order to not mix platoons up.  The result was that instead of forming properly for the attack, 1 x T-80 platoon moved first and was immediately engaged by Ken's Chieftains on the opposite ridge.  Once again, Ken's great use of the SABRE SQUADRON action options enabled him to take quick shots at me, then duck into cover.













The initial, preparatory bombardment only beings after all of your the enemy's units have entered the table, so really the beginning of turn 2, as the Soviets are stepping off on the attack, the steel starts raining down on the British positions.  The initial barrage is really something and knocks out a couple FV432s and a Chieftain on the ridgeline!


Ken and I had questions about assuming "hull down" as one of my T-80s ended its movement sort of going up the hill.  We also wondered about the crest of the hill and how hills are modeled.  The author is very specific about hill height and hills providing concealment.  That being said, is "hull down" tied to a specific terrain feature?  Or can you declare "hull down" as an abstraction?

BTRs on the approach march.  The BMP there is subbing for a BRM.  The Forward Observer team is inside.

Ken's infantry scurrying for cover!  Not really, they're all dug in anyways.  

One of the FV432s knocked out by the initial barrage.

BMPs crossing a farm field!  Headed into the attack!

Guards T-80s on the hill.  That big red poker chip is Ken's aiming point for his artillery!

First blood!  British Chieftain from the ridge ahead scores a kill.  The T-80 on the right would also come under MILAN fire soon...
As an interesting aside here - the penetration and armor protection statistics of these 2 Cold War heavyweights ensure that a hit achieved by either the Chieftain or the T-80 on one another will most likely result in a kill - reminding me of the old adage from training "if you can be seen, you can be hit.  If you can be hit, you can be killed."

So with my armor making beautiful targets for the Ken's artillery by being bunched up on a small hilltop, my infantry was forced to push through forested terrain (open forest, but still unforgiving on movement) in order to locate the British defensive positions.  Ken wisely held his fire and kept his unit out of the tree-line.  I sent the attack in to capture the first position and dismounted my infantry to flush them out.  Ken moved his infantry back to try and get to their FV432.  I finally was able to push a squad through the British minefield on the road and dismounted a squad to engage Ken's Brits at the rear edge of the woods.  First contact was made and a firefight started to develop on the right!

The small rock indicates "suppression"
 Meanwhile on the left, Ken's artillery arrives on top of my T-80s but doesn't kill any of them.  That's OK his direct-fire more than makes up and by turn 5 the lead platoon loses 2 T-80s with #3 suppressed.  The second T-80 platoon is working its way around the lead platoon which has started the war in a most inauspicious manner...

Soviet tank attack on the Soviet left.  Note the rear T-80 platoon jockeying for position to get around their stalled comrades.


FV432 behind the initial British left battle position

Soviets dismount to clear the woods.  As of right now they can't see the British in the woods yet.


Soviet Platoon Leader 

The right-most platoon's morale plummets to "halt"

The battle unfolds.

Ken planning his next move.  Meanwhile my T-80s in the lower part of the picture burn!

BTRs swing into action.  On loan from Ken.  They are carrying substitute FoW WW2 Russian infantry, also on loan from Ken!


Soviet infantry dismount to clear out the woods!
Short-lived attempt to assault the woods to their front.  The Soviet infantry remount their carriers and move out!  The lead BTR has made contact with British infantry at the edge of the woods further west!




Contact!  Soviet fire team mixes it up with the Brits inside the light woods.  Ken attempts to remount the FV432.

final dispositions of the infantry assault at turn 5

British squad continuing to break contact!

Scratch ANOTHER T-80 but at least their morale is holding...for now!  

Ken's skillful use of terrain and orders is taking a toll on my T-80s.

At the end of the day, we both experienced, what I believe to be "realistic" casualties for this modern battle.  Ken lost a few armored vehicles to artillery fire thanks to that devastating preparatory bombardment,  and I've lost quite a few to direct fire from Ken's Chieftains. 
 So far a very fun and satisfying game although we still have numerous questions about the rules (more so, it seems than we had with the introductory rules?)

I will go over some of the things I liked and disliked about the game and full rules thus far.

I really like the differentiation between prep artillery fires and calling for and adjusting artillery fires during the game.  There is a marked difference in the process with prep fires being much more abstracted and feeling "out of your hands" as the commander.  It's a great rule.

Speaking of great rules, I like how in this scenario the defender gets to place the remainder of his forces on the second turn.  This accounts for hidden positions nicely and gives the defender an advantage, accounting for pre-sighted weapons, range cards being filled out with dead space marked, and the defending soldiers having a better feeling or understanding of the ground than the attackers, as it should be.  It's a refreshing rule that takes this set above the rules currently out there.

Again, kudos to SABRE SQUADRON for the "everything on a 5+ / 1D10 die roll" or you can do anything on a modified roll of 5 or better on a 10 sided dice.  It speeds up game play considerably.

The full rules are very comprehensive in terms of main battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.  I would have liked some stats for Soviet tracked recce but it's completely understandable that they weren't in there yet.  That said, we used the stats for the BMP2 for my BRM recce.  I think that's a good compromise.

I also love the range rules in SABRE SQUADRON.  Tanks can range most of the table on a large sized table and that gives them a deadly advantage during the game.

The artillery seems even harder to get when it's on-call and I believe it's a forcing function to make you purchase organic mortars.  I didn't research it, but I'm willing to bet the 120mm self propelled mortar is a nasty SOB in this game.

There are some things we will need to clarify prior to completing this game (Ken was nice enough to offer to keep the game up!).

Infantry fire - we played with infantry fire in the last game but for some reason seem to be even more confused by it now.  Our first infantry firing scenario was a "messy" one with multiple units in and out of cover, multiple weapon systems, etc.  We haven't closed to close combat range yet either but I'll bet it's going to be a mess the first time we try it.

The issue with terrain and the status of hill crestlines will need to be figured out.  Is the terrain "what you see is what you get" or is it more abstracted?

Also, and I will preface this with a warning, be careful what you wish for.  I wished for a revamping of the infantry movement values from the introductory rules and they have been updated.  Needless to say, I now prefer the older, intro rules because they calculations were done for you in regards to movement.  (I didn't like fractions, even easy fractions, in 4th grade and I don't like them now.)  I think the way around this is to make a cheat sheet that has the movement calculated.

The full SABRE SQUADRON rules have "movement segments" listed with the effects that terrain have on your allotment of "movement segments"  Those segments are the total inches you can move.  So if a tank has 4 "movement segments" and 1 "movement segment" is 2 inches in a given terrain, you get 8 inches.  I think it would just have been easier to calculate it for us.  It does allow for more variations or terrain restrictions on movement and allows for varying effects on the force, but I'm a lazy gamer above all else with a mere 2 brain cells to rub together.  I would prefer to spend those calculating my tactical plan and not figuring out if I can get my BMPs up into the woods or not.

Again just my preference.  I love the rules.  I will keep playing them!  I can't wait to complete this game.









23 comments:

  1. Nice batrep so far! 15mm moderns look so good, but I have too many other projects these days to buy into to. Maybe that'll be a 2016 project for me.

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    1. Thanks Ski! Glad you enjoyed it! Stay tuned! More on the way next couple of weeks!
      The Zvezda 1/100 stuff is a cost effective alternative to the stuff out there now.

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    1. Sabre Squadron are a very interesting set of rules.

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  3. Great looking game - glad to see you clearly enjoying these rules too, and a new genre.
    Sounds like it will give Battlegroup a run for its money in your mind.

    I am wondering if you could make up a set of quick 'generic' movement rates or perhaps use the BG rules for movement to speed up this section of play?

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    1. Paul,
      I was thinking of just using the movement values from the free, introductory "Rapid Deployment" rules he offers. They were simple movement values.

      I really do like these rules. Not sure about Battlegroup vrs Sabre Squadron though. Battlegroup may trump these if it still remains as simple as it is now. That said, Sabre Squadron's "Action Options" are hard to beat! Many of the things that makes this set truly modern have been incorporated into the rules in a way that is hard to beat.

      We'll have to see when Battlegroup: NORTHAG comes out!

      Hey did you ever get that command stand in the mail?

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    2. :-)

      http://tasmancave.blogspot.com.au/2015/09/ivans-have-landed.html

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  4. Looks like a great game! I might even be motivated to re-start painting my 15mm Mods!

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    1. Thanks Chuck,
      Highly recommended. Haven't I heard someone say 15mm is "God's own scale?" :)

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  5. Great batrep - looking forward to part 2! The table looks excellent as do the figures.

    There is a sabre squadron forum now - here:
    http://www.sabresquadron.com/forum/index.php

    and I hope you don't mind, I've posted a link to your post in the AAR section

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    1. Thank you sir! I, too, am looking forward to part 2!

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  6. Looks like a great game for me!
    Did the rules manage the air support somehow? It would be amazing to see MI-24 or Lynx above the battlefield.

    BTW 3GSA was renamed to 3 Combined Arms Army in mid-50s ;)

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    1. yes Sabre Squadron has rules for airpower incl. fixed and rotary wing.

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    2. And by the 70s/80s was known as 3 Shock Army, based in Magdeburg

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  7. Very impressive bat rep and analysis, Steve. I agree with you that the handling of defensive placement of some units on turn 2 is a once touch and, as you say, shows what well trained and energetic subunit commanders and NCOs should be doing if tim permits - personally siting weapons, completing range cards, etc. Nice.
    It's always nice to see the BAOR in action - a very tough professional army.
    Kit and table all look phenomenal.
    Cheers,
    Michael

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    1. Thanks Michael! I enjoyed writing this as I like to showcase these terrific rules. The BAOR are my friend Ken's troops and so far they have not disappointed! I have the burning T-80s to prove it!!
      British Forces and the table and terrain all provided by Ken. I merely brought my Soviets over to his house to play. They're still there. Hopefully we can finish this game. I'm hoping my infantry can grind their way through to the objective! Thank you for commenting.

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  8. Still furiously painting my stuff so I haven't had a chance to play yet. I'm working on using Nick's base Data Cards and converting the Movement Segments to inches to help speed up play. Awesone bat rep! I'll keep checking back!

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    1. Thanks Atomic, we still need to actually play part 2!! Good luck with the painting!

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